Watch-unto-prayer.org was one of the first websites I found when I started researching the plan. I learned so much from them that I eventually made them an exception to my "no referencing Christian sources" rule. I decided from the very beginning I would try to not use anything but direct sources to show my opposition position. I totally refused to cite Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson, Alex Jones or any of the leading voices that lent any automatic agreement or hostility toward my work. I wanted people to read the communitarian writings and plans themselves, and make their choice about it based on what Etzioni says.
But the group at watch-unto-prayer had posted so many well-referenced articles that I began listing them on pages where they had substantial relevant information. I especially appreciated their research on the John Birch Society and other organizations who have such malevolent influence. Of course after them, I found places to add many other good Christian sources, including Bobby Garner (who's in a category all his own), Nancy Levant, Joan Veon, Berit Kjos, and Henry Lamb. This led me to seeking good Islamic and Jewish sources as well, because I am not a practicing Christian and I do believe the Muslim message and the Jewish message is as misquoted as the Bible. It also led me to researching the Bahai and Gaia religions.
I am truely honored to find my Etzioni and communitarian research in this new article, as this graph to the "What is CGM?" section shows how well this writer grasps the ideology:
But the group at watch-unto-prayer had posted so many well-referenced articles that I began listing them on pages where they had substantial relevant information. I especially appreciated their research on the John Birch Society and other organizations who have such malevolent influence. Of course after them, I found places to add many other good Christian sources, including Bobby Garner (who's in a category all his own), Nancy Levant, Joan Veon, Berit Kjos, and Henry Lamb. This led me to seeking good Islamic and Jewish sources as well, because I am not a practicing Christian and I do believe the Muslim message and the Jewish message is as misquoted as the Bible. It also led me to researching the Bahai and Gaia religions.
I am truely honored to find my Etzioni and communitarian research in this new article, as this graph to the "What is CGM?" section shows how well this writer grasps the ideology:
"Communitarianism is a “Third Way” compromise between Capitalism and Communism. Communitarianism is not Fascism nor is it Communism, but a synthesis of these opposing ideologies which preceded it. It draws government-business partnerships from Fascism and employs group decision-making from Communism. Communitarianism will resemble a corporate state (Fascism) in which the elite will work under capitalist rules to continue generating wealth while the working class will be controlled by Communist model laws. The Communitarian synthesis incorporates not only elements of Fascism and Communism, but also Globalism. " The Transformation of John Macarthur’s Grace Community ChurchHow Change Agents Are Transitioning GCC into the New WorldOrder By Bob Johnson, March 7, 2009 http://watch-unto-prayer.org/macarthur.html
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I think my head just exploded! How do you absorb all of that? I'll be reading this site and it's links for many months. I went right to the JBS part, I will be sending that one around to quite a few people.
This is great information Niki, thanks for reminding us of it.
Pete
I too have read a lot of Barbara Aho's work on watch-unto-prayer. She is an incredible researcher. She also has good audio links to some shows she did.
ALL Churches are controlled and leading people into the NWO through the Church Growth Movement headed by Rick Warren and C Peter Wagner. They use the business model developed by Peter Drucker which is based in Systems Theory which is Theosophy! This business model is called the Purpose Driven Church. It is called Total Quality Management in business circles.
If your church is using it then GET OUT NOW! It is EXACTLY the same process that is being used in society now. It is Communitarianism.
Edith
I've read the article Niki. It's all true and it is "exactly" what I went through at my job....and my Church. It's all true and it's all very devastating. I've never read such a clear picture of what is going on.
Re-posting link to my testimony of same...
http://nikiraapana.blogspot.com/2009/01/testimony-of-use-of-dialectic-process.html
Niki,
I just wanted to say that just because the Jews, Muslims, and Christians mis-quote the Bible does not make the Bible wrong...it just makes all these groups wrong. All of these groups are using the Bible to bring about this false system.
The only reason I can see all of this is my staying in God's word in my thinking.
The only way you are able to see all of this is your ability to stay within Biblical thinking also only you don't realize that is what you're doing. You are clinging to the "old world system" and that system is based in truth, it's Biblical reasoning. True thinking uses principals, and concepts, facts, and laws tried over time and never changing. Decisions are based on facts not feelings or felt needs. They are based on concrete right and wrong.
The consensus process destroys this. They want people to step out of the "box". Now what do you think the box is? The box is old world didactic thinking which is Bible based.
You're standing up for the God of the Bible without even realizing it....:o)Anyone who stands against this Luciferic system is standing up for the Truth.
I just don't know how else to say it. There is only two systems here...God's system and Lucifer's system. People have to choose whom they will serve because they can't serve both. It used to be people could stay on the fence but now the lines have been drawn. It's time to choose.
Niki,
Edith is right and you should heed what she says. The Bible (KJV) is all true. What is going on in the world today? The powers-that-be (hardcore Satan worshippers) are preparing the world for the false Messiah (anti-Christ) to rule in Israel. The people who control the world know the Bible is all true. They are all in Satan's grip (the god of this world). Everything going on today is either an effort to counterfeit the second coming of Christ or to thwart the second coming. This is the reason for all their technology to make earthquakes and weather modification and exotic weaponry... They plan on fighting Jesus when he comes. And they plan on counterfeiting God's signs of tribulation in the book of Revelation to deceive. Go to www.watch.pair.com and read "heeding Bible Prophecy." You will see that everything is designed to counterfeit the second coming of Christ and bring as many people to Hell as possible with them. The Mark of the Beast will be the hexagram. Bob posting as Charles
Most all the prophecies in the Bible have been fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
What we see right now is tribulation at the hands of Satan and his minions. I do believe these times have been foretold in the context of scripture. I do not believe they are counterfeited but actual events allowed by God. There will not be 2 tribulations but only one and this one is being played out by the elite claiming it is Bible prophecy. God is not in it, God is not bringing judgment upon America. It is being destroyed by design at the hands of Satan. Judgment from God will come on Judgment Day when the wheat is separated from the tares.
The KJV of the Bible has it's flaws due to some manipulation but it is the best English Bible and is spoken in the didactic and not the dialectic. All newer versions are translated out of the corrupt Alexandrian manuscripts which are Gnostic new age thought to lead the people into this The Plan.
Dispensationalism teaches that God will turn back to the Jews and save them when the church is raptured. This is false unless they turn to Jesus Christ alone....The Messiah.
The creation of the state of Israel is not fulfilled prophecy as they claim. It is false. The true people (nation)....which are the children of Israel (Jacob) are the true Israel of God. There is only one way to the Father and that is through Jesus Christ. The KJV teaches this in context. The Kingdom of God came on the Day of Pentecost and it is a spiritual kingdom....not of this world. Jesus Christ will not set up his kingdom on Earth. The Earth and it's kingdom belong to the god of this world.
Our hope is eternal.
Edith
Edith, Go to the Watch Unto Prayer site and read the article called Heeding Bible Prophecy and you will understand. We aren't in tribulation now. Satan will plan to counterfeit all of God's tribulation events to trick people. Satan counterfeits God's plan of church age/rapture/tribulation/great tribulation/new heavens-new earth.
The NEWEST Pretrib Calendar
Hal (serial polygamist) Lindsey and other pretrib-rapture-trafficking and Mayan-Calendar-hugging hucksters deserve the following message: "2012 may be YOUR latest date. It isn't MAYAN!" Actually, if it weren't for the 179-year-old, fringe-British-invented, American-merchandised pretribulation rapture bunco scheme, Hal might still be piloting a tugboat on the Mississippi, roly-poly Thomas Ice (Tim LaHaye's No. 1 strong-arm enforcer) might still be in his tiny folding-chair church which shares its firewall with a Texas saloon, Jack Van Impe might still be a jazz band musician, Tim LaHaye might still be titillating California matrons with his "Christian" sex manual, Grant Jeffrey might still be taking care of figures up in Canada, Chuck Missler might still be in mysterious hush-hush stuff that rocket scientists don't dare talk about, John Hagee might be making - and eating - world-record pizzas, and Jimmy ("Bye You" Rapture) Swaggart might still be flying on a Ferriday flatbed! To read more details about the eschatological British import that leading British scholarship never adopted - the import that's created some American multi-millionaires - Google "Pretrib Rapture Diehards" (note LaHaye's hypocrisy under "1992"), "Hal Lindsey's Many Divorces," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)" and "Thomas Ice (Hired Gun)," "LaHaye's Temperament," "Wily Jeffrey," "Chuck Missler - Copyist," "Open Letter to Todd Strandberg" and "The Rapture Index (Mad Theology)," "X-Raying Margaret," "Humbug Huebner," "Thieves' Marketing," "Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal," "The Unoriginal John Darby," "Pretrib Hypocrisy," "The Real Manuel Lacunza," "Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism," "America's Pretrib Rapture Traffickers," "Pretrib Rapture - Hidden Facts," "Dolcino? Duh!" and "Scholars Weigh My Research." Most of the above is written by journalist/historian Dave MacPherson who has focused on long-hidden pretrib rapture history for 35+ years. No one else has focused on it for 35 months or even 35 weeks. MacPherson has been a frequent radio talk show guest and he states that all of his royalties have always gone to a nonprofit group and not to any individual. His No. 1 book on all this is "The Rapture Plot" (see Armageddon Books online, etc.). The amazing thing is how long it has taken the mainstream media to finally notice and expose this unbelievably groundless yet extremely lucrative theological hoax!
[a recent web bit shared by Barb]
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