Monday, February 23, 2009

Sixpence None the Wiser, by Phil Mayman

Jason posted this link on facebook, it's a really insightful article in the Fairfield County Weekly asking how we're going to live when the stimulous debt is due. Notice the calls to war in the responses:
"What is life going to be like when we stop using dollars? Will we revert to bartering? Will we adopt euros or yen? Will we hoard gold? Or will we just roll wheelbarrows full of American currency to exchange for something more valuable — like toilet paper?" http://www.fairfieldweekly.com/article.cfm?aid=11757

8 comments:

Bobby Garner said...

When the stimulus debt comes due, they will tell us what to do if we care to ask.

The Union Jack Proposes to Awaken the Honest Seekers to the Truth that:
1. Conspiracy accomplishes most of its purpose under a "Christian cloak".
2. Conspiracy enlists the "patriots" to promote the conspiracy without their knowing it.
3. World Government is already a fact and all nations have bowed their knee to Baal.
4. Baal has a universal religion to deceive the world -- the Kingdom Message.
5. Baal has a world "money" system and it is called monetized debt.
6. The thought police in America have changed our language to deceive us in our own thoughts.
7. The Constitution of the United States of America is an imaginary relic that still deceives the people into believing that they have freedom. The belief that it is still there when it is in fact not there promotes the illusion of freedom.
8. Government is organized crime and continues in power because it has the support of the people. It has the support of the people because they have been humanized through the influence of the Masonic Lodges and the "Church of their choice."
9. The Anglo-American Government has stolen the wealth of the world with their paper "money."
10. The Government owes nothing and pays nothing. It simply issues monetized debt (paper "money") for all goods and services that it wants and continues to roll over and expand debt. Government debt is a polite term for theft.
11. The United States Government does not need to collect taxes from its citizens because the citizens cannot pay taxes with monetized debt, called dollars.
12. The work of the Internal Revenue Service is to regulate and control consumption and to gather information for Big Brother.

13. To keep a nation of willing slaves the Government must control religion, education, and regulate consumption.
14. Governments cannot control and deceive [real] Christians.
15. Governments cannot control people who barter and do not use the paper money debt system.

Need more?

Everyone is trying "To Establish God's Kingdom On Earth"

the tent lady said...

Bobby, How does this account for the Chinese role in the NWO? They are the "model" for the system, and I would not call them Anglo-American. And #14 puzzles me. What about the non-Christians? I haven't believed in the Bible or Jesus for decades. I believe in a Creator, and that's all I can believe in. I still kind of pray to Jesus cause I honor the idea of him and it helps me to focus. But I reject everything man has told me God is, and I especially reject any "I'm the only path to God" theology. I also don't see a lot of Muslims being deceived by the fake Judeo-Christian rhetoric, and I don't see them being easily controlled by it either.

And you're the last person on the planet I'd ever want to get into a religious argument with, but.. ack .. here goes.

Isn't it just as possible that the religions were created to be part of the plan from the beginning? It would be impossible to deceive mass numbers of people who believe in a religion if nobody believed in it.

Lark said...

Forgive me if I sidestep the religious question for a minute - truth is possessed of qualities not necessarily true from one moment to the next - probably because most factual information only materializes as such in a very specific present frame and context. Even when as many specifics have been addressed in the brightest lights possible... ever afterward... all other bets... based on any of the original conclusions drawn from that one set of previously known facts... are off... and therefore, must be re-examined.

This only briefly describes the illusory nature of all belief systems - including longstanding "scientifically-examined evidence" which purports to support "all the known facts."

Faith, on the other hand, seems much more enduring than belief. And it doesn't ever saddle me with inner turmoil or doubt either...

... Because facts and evidence - even those pesky words - no longer seem needed... to define it.

Mom and Dad used to say the only certainty in life was change - whether we willed it so or not...

... So, with that said, I'll simply repeat what I said to a Christian lawyer in our Texas "patriot" group recently: "It's pretty clear we're being deliberately goaded."

The criminal gang that has control over America cannot stay in power forever if enough Americans can be fully awakened to their scams. The futility... of planning our futures... with the lemming's goal of chasing counterfeit dollars everyday... has been exposed once and for all - so now... we just need to rethink... our daily activities... accordingly.

Who needs an "income" when we have barter anyway? Who gets to finally determine... what those ordinary words... "health, wealth, and wisdom" - or even "prosperity" - really mean to us?

Is it us, an assemblage of free, natural-born individuals? Or them, the criminal cabal in charge of "their government?"

What about terms like "full faith and credit?" Or "contract" and "law", "God" and "trust?" When I combine "barter" in my mind with "gifting" and "lawful trade"... somehow... I start to see some awesomely creative ways out of this "scary economic downturn" mess.

I remember a time... still... when the most lucrative of my business dealings... was conducted with a handshake... and a smile.

Plus, I'm beginning to "trust my gut" more than I ever had before - always in good fun; yet all... in the spirit... of a good day's work!:)

Bobby Garner said...

Thanks for the questions Niki. I promise this will not turn into a "religious argument".

First the question of China. The Union Jack and other credible sources makes it clear that communism is traceable to British roots. China is a communist nation. Their current 5 year plan expires in 2011, although I believe that is in the process of changing. The Union Jack says in chapter 1: "The massive might of Red China that we hear so much about is a mere possession of the British Empire, which has a noose around the throat of China through the control of Hong Kong. China, like any other nation, would die without commerce and this lifeline is through Hong Kong controlled by the British Empire."

Of course Britain returned control of Hong Kong to China, but Joan Veon has documented how grants of independence have always been made on the condition that the liberated colony would vote with the British in the U.N. Also, I read somewhere recently about deals that were made on Hong Kong at the very beginning, but I'd have to find that again before commenting on it. Nevertheless, there is sufficient evidence to suggest that China was and remains a British asset.

On point #14, I inserted the word [real] because Christians appear to be among the most gullible of all people. I prefer to avoid using the word myself, because I don't see any certain evidence that Jesus intended to start a religion, and the early followers didn't call themselves Christian. That name was given to them by others.

The Union Jack warns of the language used to define Christianity, that it has a Masonic source:

"We must be careful that it is not the language but the thought which is conveyed that determines our understanding.

"The Bible is the most effective veil behind which Freemasonry can conceal it's phallic religion. It hesitates not to employ that Holy Book in order to conceal it's own falsehoods and idolatries and to deceive and mislead it's over-confiding disciples. It calls things by their opposites. It substitutes legends for facts, expresses legendary lore and pagan myths in the language of Holy Scripture. It calls heathen deities by Biblical names of God, heathen rites by Christian phrases and Masonic doctrines in phrases and terms of Christian theology. The whole system is not what it appears or pretends to be. It is a pretense, a delusion, a fraud, a lie." - Chapter 7

I don't believe there is any biblical requirement that we call ourselves Christian in order to identify with Jesus' teaching, and his purpose. I do believe that we must know what his purpose and teachings are, and live accordingly. Just being good people is not enough.

Muslims are pretty well isolated from the Judeo-Christian influence, and in my opinion they are better Christians than those who preach it. The basis for Christianity is God's promise to Abraham. and Islam can trace its genology to Abraham through Ishmael. God made his Covenant with Isaac, but he said this about Ishmael: "And as to Ishmael, I have heard you. Behold, I have blessed him and will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall father twelve chiefs, and I will make him a great nation." (Gen 17:20) The Covenant with Isaac meant that the Christ would come through him. But then Jesus mediated a new Covenant which would apply to all people who would be bound by it. Its requirements are not burdensome. Jesus said, "Come to Me, all those laboring and being burdened, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, because I am meek and lowly in heart, "and you will find rest to your souls." Jer. 6:16 For My yoke is easy, and My burden is light." (Matthew 11:28-30)

The answer to your last question is yes, it is quiet possible, and all available evidence indicates that religion functions as a control mechanism. Thats why I contend that Christianity is not biblical. Judaism was biblical, but its function was to produce the Christ which they did, but then they rejected him, and God rejected them.

Jesus said to all who would apply themselves to his teachings, "And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." (John 8:32)

Bobby Garner said...

I like the idea of barter. I have always been a trader, and never owned anything which wasn't for sale or trade. But I always found and negotiated my own deals, and that is pretty much limited to my own locality. I ran a newspaper ad to sell an almost new set of tires about four years ago, and a fellow called me from Pennsylvania (about 800 miles) and wanted to send a guy out to close the deal with a check. I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole, and my sentiment is similar for long distance barter.

The idea of a deal maker or middle man in any barter deal is a big turn-off for me. Another is trading for something sight unseen. The best deals come when I go look at something and I look to see what else is lying around. Then after I've negotiated the best deal, offer to close it on condition that some other item be thrown in. It doesn't matter what it is, but it works best if the item doesn't appear to be used much.

Broker fees and shipping costs are problems, but you know that if it ever really takes off, the Wall Street shysters will move in on the brokerage operations, and we'll end up being regulated, tagged, taxed and or fined at every turn. As long as the putrefying scum remains in Washington and New York, nothing is going to succeed in my opinion.

the tent lady said...

Thanks Bobby, your answers helped a lot. I love you my friend, I'm hoping your faith is strong enough for both of us. I may not share your belief, but I am empowered by it. Does that make me some kind of a spiritual leech? And yuk, I'm reading Sinsiter Forces again and remembering the role witchcraft plays in the whole plan. Knowing these wackos practice all this weird ancient magic always makes me want Jesus to be real! That's my main prayer actually, I spent years saying, "Oh my God you better be real, because I'm staking my whole life on it." Of course then I realized I had no faith in "the word" and now I just hope for mercy when my time comes to face the music. It is most embarrassing to think about all the whining and crying I've done over the plan, and I pray the "One True God" is a merciful and forgiving God, more like Jesus, and not that mean old God in the Old Testament or the one with the Phoenix feathers. I really, really hope my neighbor's wrong in his family masonic belief that we're all just food for the aliens who set themselves up as gods.

And yes, bartering, I've been doing it as much as I could all these years too. I love how Lark says he sees "awesomely creative possibilities." We do too, it's mine and Nordica's dream world, which she intends to make into a reality. But we also know full well how the comm regulations will make honest bartering illegal and put the whole thing into the hands of the black marketeers (coming soon to a neighborhood near you from eastern Europe with over half a century of experience, living under communism many became proficient in scams, extortion and robbery). I've just got to find a better way to make and contribute legal FRNs right now, before they're totally useless. Maybe I do need Obama's retraining program to help me, or maybe not.:)

Lark said...

Niki, some suggestions: I think you should bump up the price of your physical book - with the bonus proviso that the buyer will receive a digital copy of any future revision for free - and then provide for the online sale of a $17 digital version of that same book.

Also, make it a condition of any radio work you do that the host(s) be cordially "invited" to make a one-minute pitch [per hour] for your book; and then ask them if they "wouldn't so terribly mind"... in advance... to agree or not.

You need to consider doing at least one hour each week of radio work - in whatever format you feel comfortable - but you also will need to control the content, including whether or not you will do a pre-scheduled Q & A session, etc. If it suits you, it might be more feasible to begin a simple lecture series or else a series of light conversations recorded via phone and free technology online.

Hey, I'd love to discuss these matters in greater detail!

But for fun, go visit my barter club... sometime soon... at... http://www.merchantrade.com

And here's a tip for you: My late dad owned a dental lab for many years. They're the folks who make those "appliances" that dentists fit into a patient's mouth.

Every other month he'd make these different appliances - like crowns, bridges, partial and full dentures, etc. - for dentists in far-flung places............... who merely made an impression of the patient's bite, then sent off his/her instructions for the lab to fulfill.

But nowadays, many more dentists are doing their own in-house "lab work" - and you'd be surprised to know that a lot of them will do 100% trade via their respective barter exchanges... like mine!

Fed notes? They're not everything!

http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Counter-Economics
http://wapedia.mobi.en/Counter-economics
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1865467-1,00.html
http://www.cyberclass.net/economics.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/bartable.htm

Sometimes we can talk and talk... and still never get through... to each other, don't you suspect?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQILgFm3Gg

Do you remember "Let's Make a Deal!" on TV? Fed notes are the biggest part of the problem we Americans face; never have they been the best solution!

Anonymous said...

Niki: every time I go to your website I think of your living conditions and how hard it is to make it where you are and I am praying for you to be protected and for your faith to increase.