I'm building lists of chapter references for quotes and citations used in "2020." In the process of re-checking all my facts, I stumbled on a curious reference to a quote I used that was attributed to "Prime Minister Giuliano Amato, later Vice President of the European Union Constitutional Convention in an interview with Barbara Spinelli of La Stampa July 13, 2000."
I found the Amato quote at freeeurope.com while doing research for my January 26, 2006 article, "CAFTA, the EU and Communitarian Law" published at newswithviews.com. http://www.newswithviews.com/Raapana/niki.htm. I later added it to "2020" and I want to cite the actual interview and not only the repost by freeeurope. com, so I went looking for a good translation of the source for the original quote.
Well, along the way, I found an article by Steven Yates at newswithviews.com published on April 20, 2006, where Yates says:
"And, from a recent installment in Dennis Cuddy’s series, this astounding observation merits repeating: “One must act in Europe as if nations were to remain sovereign, in order to convince them to surrender their sovereignty…. The sovereignty lost at the national level does not pass to any new subject. It is entrusted to a faceless entity,…. And those who are in command can neither be pinned down nor elected…. That is the way Europe was made, too: by creating communitarian organisms without giving the organisms presided over by national governments theimpression that they were being subjected to a higher power…. I don’t think it’s a good idea to replace this slow and effective method—which keeps national States free from anxiety while they are being stripped of power—with great institutional leaps. Therefore I prefer to go slowly, to crumble pieces of sovereignty up little by little….” Italian Prime Minister Giuliano Amato (Vice President of the EU’s Constitutional Convention), to Barbara Spinelli in an interview for La Stampa (July 13, 2000)." http://www.newswithviews.com/Yates/steven17.htm
Apparently, Dr. Dennis Cuddy used the quote in his April 10, 2006 article at newswithviews:
"The power elite's goal is a World Socialist Government, but without the people knowing that it is occurring. Relevant to this, note what the Vice-President of the European Union Constitutional Convention, Italian Prime Minister Giuliano Amato, told Barbara Spinelli in an interview for LA STAMPA (July 13, 2000): "One must act in Europe as if nations were to remain sovereign, in order to convince them to surrender their sovereignty....The sovereignty lost at the national level does not pass to any new subject. It is entrusted to a faceless entity,...and those who are in command can neither be pinned down nor elected....That is the way Europe was made too: by creating communitarian organisms without giving the organisms presided over by national governments the impression that they were being subjected to a higher power....I don't think it's a good idea to replace this slow and effective method---which keeps national States free from anxiety while they are being stripped of power---with great institutional leaps. Therefore I prefer to go slowly, to crumble pieces of sovereignty up little by little...."" http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis62.htm
Neither Ph.D Yates or Cuddy refers to my CAFTA article, which was published over three months before theirs were published, nor does Cuddy cite where he obtained his version, copied by Yates, whereas my CAFTA article links to my source: freeeurope.com.
Here's an example of someone who didn't need to lift anything from my article without giving me credit, and who managed to find the same translation of the quote I used:
"Italy's then Prime Minister Giuliano Amato explained how the EU is being developed as the Democratic Way to Totalitarianism: "One must act "as if", in Europe: as if one wanted only very few things, in order to obtain a great deal. As if nations were to remain sovereign, in order to convince them to surrender their sovereignty. The Commission in Brussels, for example, must act as if it were a technical organism, in order to operate like a government. …The sovereignty lost on a national level does not pass on to any new subject. It is entrusted to a faceless entity: Nato, the UN and eventually the EU. The Union is the vanguard of this changing world: it indicates a future of princes without sovereignty. …The new entity is faceless, and those who are in command can neither be pinned down nor elected. …Most people don't realise that the New World is already among us. The truth is that shifting sovereign power will make it evaporate. Disappear. …In it there will no longer be individual identifiable sovereigns. In their place there will be a multitude of authorities at different levels of aggregation, each of which will be at the head of different interests of human beings: levels that possess ambiguous fields of power which they share with other authorities. …By moving, the power we were used to will disappear. That's the way Europe was made too: by creating communitarian organisms without giving the organisms presided over by national governments the impression that they were being subjected to a higher power. That's how the Court of Justice as a super-national organ was born: it was a sort of unseen atom bomb, which Schuman and Monnet slipped into the negotiations on the Coal and Steel Community. That was what the "CSC" itself was: a random mixture of national egotisms which became communitarian. I don't think it's a good idea to replace this slow and effective method - which keeps national States free from anxiety while they are being stripped of power - with great institutional leaps. …As to the Commission, I would like to make this clear. To me the executive branch undoubtedly has a political role. I'm just certain that it will exercise it best by employing the technical power that the Treaty assigns to it as an executive organ. Therefore I prefer to go slowly, to crumble pieces of sovereignty up little by little, avoiding brusque transitions from national to federal power. As you see, the building sites are immense." (Europe Doesn't Need a Sovereign, by Barbara Spinelli, July 13 2000 La Stampa)" http://www.kc3.co.uk/~dt/Introduction.htm
Maybe Dr.s Cuddy and Yates want to borrow another quote I just found by Amato:
"The good thing about not calling it a Constitution is that no one can ask for a referendum on it." Giuliano Amato - speech at London School of Economics, 21 February 2007
http://www.caef.org.uk/D104quotes.html
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