Sunday, May 16, 2010

Jesse Ventura's Censored 9/11 Commentary

Since we're on the subject of conspiracy theories again (:{)}%?, I found this on a forum at prisonplanet where someone linked to the ACL. I didn't know Jesse Ventura has a tv show called Conspiracy Theory and that Alex Jones is an adviser! I have to say this is a fairly good overview of the dispute of the official 9/11 story, from what I've read, but I'm certainly not an expert on this. It just drives home how far removed I really am from what's happening in my country because I don't watch tv. I think I might like his show, in spite of the disinformation experts on the staff. Be kinda fun to see what they don't talk about on it, to watch how Jones is teaching Ventura to mix facts with fiction. Jones is the expert at diverting attention from specific, crucial community programs to the vague COMING POLICE STATE!!!! OMFG! Get your gun! :)
Jesse Ventura's Censored 9/11 Commentary
By Jesse Ventura
Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 01:08 PM

Editor's Note: The following column by former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura was removed by Huffington Post after it was published March 9 and replaced with a note that states the site "prohibits the promotion and promulgation of conspiracy theories -- including those about 9/11." {Niki's note: Yet Huffington Post publishes Etzioni, who promotes his bizarre theory!}

You didn't see anything about it in the mainstream media, but at a recent conference in San Francisco, more than 1,000 architects and engineers signed a petition demanding that Congress begin a new investigation into the destruction of the three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9-11.

That's right, these people put their reputations in potential jeopardy -- because they don't buy the government's version of events. They want to know how 200,000 tons of steel disintegrated and fell to the ground in 11 seconds. They question whether the hijacked planes were responsible or whether it could have been a controlled demolition from inside that brought down the twin towers and WTC Building 7.

Richard Gage, a member of the American Institute of Architects and the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, put it like this: "The official Federal Emergency Management [Agency] and National Institute of Standards and Technology [NIST] reports provide insufficient, contradictory and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction."

He's especially disturbed by Building 7, whose 47 stories came down in "pure free-fall acceleration" that afternoon, even though it was never hit by an aircraft. This is a subject I take up in my new book, American Conspiracies, published by Skyhorse. An excerpt follows: Some people have argued that the twin towers went down, within a half hour of one another, because of the way they were constructed. Well, those 425,000 cubic yards of concrete and 200,000 tons of steel were designed to hold up against a Boeing 707, the largest plane built at the time the towers were completed in 1973. Analysis had shown that a 707 traveling at 600 miles an hour (and those had four engines) would not cause major damage. The twin-engine Boeing 757s that hit on 9-11 were going 440 and 550 mph.

Still, we are told that a molten, highly intense fuel mixture from the planes brought down these two steel-framed skyscrapers. Keep in mind that no other such skyscraper in history had ever been known to collapse completely due to fire damage. So could it actually have been the result of a controlled demolition from inside the buildings?

I don't claim expertise about this, but I did work four years as part of the Navy's underwater demolition teams, where we were trained to blow things to hell and high water. And my staff talked at some length with a prominent physicist, Steven E. Jones, who says that a "gravity driven collapse" without demolition charges defies the laws of physics.

These buildings fell, at nearly the rate of free-fall, straight down into their own footprint, in approximately 10 seconds. An object dropped from the roof of the 110-story-tall towers would reach the ground in about 9.2 seconds. Then there's the fact that steel beams that weighed as much as 200,000 pounds got tossed laterally as far as 500 feet.

NIST started its investigation on Aug. 21, 2002. When their 10,000-page-long report came out three years later, the spokesman said there was no evidence to suggest a controlled demolition. But Jones also says that molten metal found underground weeks later is proof that jet fuel couldn't have been all that was responsible. I visited the site about three weeks after 9-11, with Gov. Pataki and my wife Terry. It didn't mean anything to me at the time, but they had to suspend digging that day because they were running into heat pockets of huge temperatures. These fires kept burning for more than three months, the longest-burning structure blaze ever.

And this was all due to jet fuel? We're talking molten metal more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Probably the most conclusive evidence about a controlled demolition is a research paper (two years, nine authors) published in the peer-reviewed Open Chemical Physics Journal in April 2009. In studying dust samples from the site, these scientists found chips of nano-thermite, which is a high-tech incendiary/explosive. Here's what the paper's lead author, Dr. Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen's chemistry department, had to say about the explosive that he's convinced brought down the twin towers and the nearby Building 7:

"Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2,500 degrees Centigrade [4,532 degrees Fahrenheit]. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel."

Gage is one of hundreds of credentialed architects and structural engineers who have put their careers on the line to point out the detailed anomalies and many implications of controlled demolition in the building collapses. As he puts it bluntly: "Once you get to the science, it's indisputable."

A former Navy Seal, professional wrestler and actor Jesse Ventura was elected governor of Minnesota on the Reform Party ticket in 1998 where he served until 2002. Today, Ventura is best known for hosting the popular television show Conspiracy Theory, which airs on cable television. He is also the author of five books.


Anonymous said...

I have some trouble with this "nano-thermite" theory. For one thing, I don't know what comprises "nano-thermite". Thermite ground up really fine? I've also seen the term "thermate" used. Don't know what that is, either, and can't find an explosives professional that knows either. Does it matter?
It is my understanding that these buildings were constructed using exposed steel and aluminum. That means iron oxide and aluminum were present when the buildings turned observedly into fountains of dust. During collapse, one can observe what appears to be melted steel pouring out of the buildings at selected floors. Sometime during collapse, a great deal of the buildings turned to dust and blew away in great clouds. (After one collapse, I saw a steel vertical column turn to dust right on screen.) The presence of aluminum and rust, turning to dust in the presence of molten steel COULD produce a residue similar to thermite.
My question is about the "indisputable science": Where is it? Tables, charts, experiments and repeatable results are available? Or do we have the same science used in "climate change"? Did a bunch of people sit in a circle and "dialog to consensus"?
I consider this a huge distraction, with tons of obvious misinformation to mess things up.
Who killed Kennedy? 47 years and only theories.


the tent lady said...

There are some scientists who do provide their research, but whether it is indisputable and tested I have no way of knowing. I stay out of it because I was almost beat up by a 911 researcher for putting the topic on my conspiracy theory page; he failed to notice all the other topics on that page that one could argue are not conspiracy theory either. The page was designed to question the whole concept of the term conspiracy theory, and I added any and every story that was making the British "experts" list. The American's "obsession" with a "global government conspiracy" is just as mocked as the Kennedy and 9/11 theories. Yet, as you know, I have documented the existence of the emerging norms and conditions for a global govt system since 1999. My work clearly doesn't fit the official description for conspiracy theories, yet I have been called that for eleven years now, and many people have wanted me to define myself as that also.

9/11 helped me to see more clearly all the people I can not trust... all those "Bush Knew" people and "Charge Bush with war crimes at the UN Court" people made their complicity, knowing or not, in Etzioni's solution very clear to me. The truther movement is as tainted as the Tea Party, but I'm sure there's some truth slipping through.. and then it becomes tainted because it's mixed in with obvious lies and half-truths. My annoyance with Jones is heightened lately because he used the word communitarianism in his last video to describe the system. They are starting to introduce it to the masses, I see it now, as another unprovable "theory" spouted by the right wing media, and as the evolved, enlightened solution to the left. The facts about the law, the policies and the applicability will never make it in.. will it? If Sarah Palin or Alex Jones become anticommunitarians I will have to resign from the ACL! I don't know enough about Ventura to judge his sincerity, but his choice of Jones is not a good sign.

Our Hegel page is linked to several Kennedy research sites. Do you think Hegel is a suspect? :)

We The People said...

People who know about this and do nothing are committing a sin in my book.The very fact that people lost there lives is reason enough to follow this up to the fullest.

Angry Cheese said...

Dr Judy Wood & Andrew Johnson have an interesting theory on what really might have happened on 911:

Anonymous said...

Heehee! Hegel certainly was suspicious...did he describe the Dialectic, or invent it?
To clarify my "huge distraction", I meant in the sense of distracting the masses, not that it was a huge distraction for you to discuss.
I have come to a place in my life, where, like you, I have to find my place in this horrible mess. AND, like you, I have to keep poking at Beelzebub. You have a MUCH sharper stick!

Anonymous said...

Those like Pete, and excuse me if I misconstrued your intent, are akin to those who read of the entire history of eugenics througoht history and then try to pick apart the syphilis at Tuskeegee by saying blacks were more promiscuous back then!! Instead of handling the idea of 9/11 like the stacked-deck commission (who have admitted in various statements they were designed to fail in their investigation) and trying to prove that can stacks of concrete create dust, look at and try to explain EVERY KNOWN angle for all four buildings away scientifically (or common sensically - if that's a word) and you CAN'T! I'll not spoon feed you the evidence because it's out there and if you choose not to believe them, then your mind serves the same purpose as a closed parachute!