Wednesday, August 13, 2008

And now a word from our detractors

Followed a few visitors to a forum on global warming where one member called the theory a Hegelian ruse and linked to our Hegel page. An academic member retorted thus:

"think you got the idea of using it from that lady's site. perhaps the particular application is your own.

"with all due respect jim, her ideas about hegel aren't really all that sound. she's proceeds from a very specific political standpoint. she's got zero credentials, zero credibility, and gets her mail c/o the clerk at the local grocery market in buttf**k, alaska. it's great that she's making an effort and trying to apply something theoretical to the world around her, but it's like getting advice on sex from a twelve year old. although, these days... (blanked out profanity-ed.)

"your's is a relatively arbitrary application of a long debunked metaphysic. http://www.otcentral.com/forum/showthread.php?s=3bf771ba5d9e4442dcc1120864140092&t=27173&page=3

5 comments:

Bobby Garner said...

Not only is global warming an Hegelian ruse, but it was masterminded by the Hegelians themselves.

"Natalie Grant Wraga (who died in 2002 at age 101) was an internationally-recognized expert on the art of disinformation. In her Washington Post obituary, Herbert Romerstein - veteran intelligence expert in the legislative and executive branches of government - described Grant/Wraga as "one of our leading authorities" on Soviet deceit.
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"In many of her writings, she dropped her last name and wrote under the byline Natalie Grant. That takes us to the spring 1998 issue of The Register. Therein, Grant identified Green Cross International (GCI) as a Non-Government Organization (NGO) founded by Mikhail Gorbachev, the last communist dictator of the Soviet Union. The aim of GCI was worldwide enforcement of a rigid environmental agenda." - The Marxist roots of the global warming scare

Herbert Romerstein, besides having a Jewish name, was head of the office to Counter Soviet Disinformation and Active Measures at the United States Information Agency until 1989. Before that he served as an Investigator for the House Committee on Un-American Activities (1965-1971), Minority Chief Investigator for the House Committee on Internal Security (1971-1975), and Professional Staff Member for the House Intelligence Committee (1978-1983).

The Communist League was organized in England. Marx and Engels found save haven there after being driven out of every other country where they tried to set up shop. It is widely accepted that the British were the instigators of the Bolshevik Revolution. Going back even further, Marxist.org says, "The first Communist program was defined in feudalist England in the 1500s, by Thomas More, in his work Utopia (1516)."

All of this dovetails nicely with the activities of the Pilgrims Society, and British Israel. Wouldn't it make sense to have one of their own men holding all of those critical information gatekeeper posts?

The first enduring state based on the economic theory of Karl Marx, a Hegelian par excellence, was the Soviet Union. The most implacable enemies of the Soviet Union were the proponents and exponents of the Christian and Jewish monotheistic religions.

How Hegelian, that after setting the whole thing in motion, to control all sides of the debate.

S. said...

It's about time we heard a well thought out opinion from the ACL's detractors. I'm also glad that he decided to back up his opinion with facts and references.

I guess if credentials represent anything, they represent the right to be snide, arrogant and disgusting... and all while your dead wrong.

No wonder I gave up on wanting credentials more than a decade ago.

Niki... all the photos look great... you guys look so relaxed and at home... You could go photograph 10,000 men with credentials and never find evidence of that "at ease" feeling you guys have. God Bless you all up there. Freddy looks great!

P.S. I listened to Atlas Shrugged. I think Rand expounds on some excellent ideas, but I also think she was a dialectical tool all the way. Willingly or unwittingly, she did a lot of work for the false capitolists.

Bobby Garner said...

In regard to Ayn Rand, I remember some of the late 50s-early 60s debate about the meaning of the Beat generation and the forming counter-culture, although I don't recall anything specifically about Ayn Rand. The views she expressed were typical of anyone who spoke out against the socially rebellious trend of that period.

There was no way to oppose the counter-culture without defending the establishment, and the opposite was also true. No one knew about the Third Way yet, and now that we do, we see that it is the very dynamic of the dialectical process. There is no way to effectively oppose the dialectic from within it or from without.

Thats why the Internet and Public Journalism is not only tolerated, but supported, and actually implemented as the ultimate consensus tool deployed by the ultimate facilitators to achieve the ultimate synthesis.

Since telecom companies have historically always charged a fee for the use of their long distance lines: Why is unlimited Internet access free to all subscribers? And please don't tell me about economy of scale. There are no economy of scale factors which reduce anything to zero i.e. free.

The establishment which Rand supported, was Satan's 6000 years old system (recall that he was a liar) which contained within itself the pragmatic contradictions out of which grew the seeds of discontent. It was the thesis vs. antithesis of the dialectic which led to the disorganization of the old order and will result in the establishment of a new order, also of Satan's design.

The beauty of this conundrum is that it proves that indeed "it is not in man who walks to direct his steps" (Jeremiah 10:23) not to mention leading others. There is no human solution to this problem, as proven by the fact that no human position can be identified which does not play into the dialectic process.

S. said...

Bobby,

The more I study, the more I draw the same conclusion. WE cannot fight it, and we cannot avoid the fight and be insulated from it.

There is no safety in this world, except, in Jesus. Somehow he is the epitome of individuality and the only preacher of "collectivism" that is true.

I see it as a perfect connudrum to solve an imperfect one. Maybe we could call it an infinite synthesis. :D

Bobby Garner said...

Yes, I'm inclined to agree except that I don't see it going on to infinity. There will be peace on earth, but not on our terms. It will be in spite of man's efforts, not because of them. I think Fritz springmeier stated it pretty well. He wrote in The 13 Satanic Bloodlines of the Illuminati:
"The conspiracy is not an economic conspiracy nor a political conspiracy but as The Externalization of the Hierarchy reveals in page after page--their conspiracy is a religious conspiracy. People lets just lay it out on the line--Clinton is a Satanist, he knows what the hidden agenda is. It’s an eye-opener to read the books I listed by Wells, Hall, and Spengler, but believe me that stuff is just for the blind intellectuals. The real details of this New World Order have been written down in detail and they came directly from the Master of Evil himself, directly from Satan to his hierarchy, who copied the plans in detail. The people who will implement the New World Order are men like Clinton. Men who have no moral code. Men who will glibly tell one lie after another. They won’t implement H.G. Well’s plan---they will implement Satan’s plan. And prideful Satan will unwittingly implement YHWH God’s." — The Russell Bloodline.

Before you go join a church, read The Union Jack. Springmeier made the right conclusion, but it is not a conspiracy, but a PLAN as Alice Bailey herself called it. Its religious only in that it destroys all traditional religions and introduces a Unitarian model as a function of world government. So, the PLAN does serve a definite political agenda.

I believe this action is described in Revelation chapters 17 and 18 where the ten kings, "receive authority as kings one hour with the beast. ... these will hate the harlot, and will make her desolated and naked. And they will eat her flesh, and will burn her down with fire. For God gave into their hearts to do His mind, and to act in one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the Words of God shall be fulfilled. And the woman whom you saw is the great city, having a kingdom over the kings of the earth."